Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:15:32 -0700 From: Automatic digest processor Subject: SOREHAND Digest - 22 Apr 1995 to 23 Apr 1995 To: Recipients of SOREHAND digests There are 5 messages totalling 143 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. DragonDictate 60K 2. Dragon Dictate (4) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 14:29:17 EDT From: "Peter S. Cohen" <70254.535@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: DragonDictate 60K ***** . The only difference between the 30,000 word and 60,000 word versions is the additional words, which are mostly medical and legal vocabulary Margaret Bernson ***** This isn't quite right. :-) The vocabulary between 30k and 60k really contains more forms of the general English words that exist in the 30K vocab as well as additional general English word roots and forms. The forms of the word talk (talk, talked, talks, talking ) count as four words. - Peter Cohen Certified Dragon Reseller 70254.535@compuserve.com 508-655-7711 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 14:15:22 PDT From: Dana Bergen Subject: Re: Dragon Dictate >> Also, my local resseler was telling me that I need to 60,000 >> word power edition of Dragon Dictate. > (The one that costs $1700), >> since I am a programmer. That I will find the 30,000 version >> unworkable. This is an interesting misconception. I believe that as a programmer I use a much *smaller* vocabulary than someone who mainly dictates text. It's true that as a programmer, you have to add a lot of specialized vocabulary, but I'm sure that the 60K DragonDictate doesn't include the Unix commands and variable names you need, so you're going to have to add them anyway. You're certainly not going to add 30,000 of them! I use the 30K version, and I'm doing fine with it. If I were to move up to 60K, it would be to facilitate dictating text; I wouldn't expect it to make any difference for programming tasks. Dana dana@sybase.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:07:53 -0400 From: Jeff DelPapa Subject: Dragon Dictate Date: Sun, 23 Apr 95 14:15:22 PDT From: dana@sybase.com (Dana Bergen) Content-Length: 852 >> Also, my local resseler was telling me that I need to 60,000 >> word power edition of Dragon Dictate. > (The one that costs $1700), >> since I am a programmer. That I will find the 30,000 version >> unworkable. This is an interesting misconception. I believe that as a programmer I use a much *smaller* vocabulary than someone who mainly dictates text. It's true that as a programmer, you have to add a lot of specialized vocabulary, but I'm sure that the 60K DragonDictate doesn't include the Unix commands and variable names you need, so you're going to have to add them anyway. You're certainly not going to add 30,000 of them! I use the 30K version, and I'm doing fine with it. This very much depends on what you are programming, and accounts for the wide variability people have reported with programming and dragon -- you have doubts that you would hit 30,000 identifiers, whereas, I would hit 5,000 just with the reserved names defined by the standard of the language I use (I have added a fair number of them), and I know I can't add all the identifiers used in the system I work with, there are well over 225,000 of them, not including the "layered" extras. I have been adding them as I need them, (I wind up sticking my nose into most areas of the system) and was one of the people that needed the 3.1 patch to the DOS version. In fact, I have taken to just adding the common spelling fractures, and not trying to get one phrase/identifier. Scott, is there any easy way to tell how many words you have added to your vocabulary? (that is the one thing I miss from the dos V1, seeing my macros is useful, but seeing the "ordinary" words would also help. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 17:23:06 -0700 From: "Warren F. Seltzer" Subject: Re: Dragon Dictate I am looking for a voice input system compatible with Microsoft Visual C++ 2.x, and have not found one, because this compiler runs only on Windows NT and Windows95. There are no shipping voice systems for these operating systems... Any help will be appreciated. Warren Warren F. Seltzer Just east of Seattle warrens@warrens.seanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 17:52:00 PDT From: Dana Bergen Subject: Re: Dragon Dictate > I'm sure that the 60K DragonDictate doesn't include the > Unix commands and variable names you need, so you're going to have to > add them anyway. You're certainly not going to add 30,000 of them! I > use the 30K version, and I'm doing fine with it. > >This very much depends on what you are programming, and accounts for >the wide variability people have reported with programming and dragon >-- you have doubts that you would hit 30,000 identifiers, whereas, I >would hit 5,000 just with the reserved names defined by the standard >of the language I use (I have added a fair number of them), and I know >I can't add all the identifiers used in the system I work with, there >are well over 225,000 of them, not including the "layered" extras. To clarify: I don't add all the identifiers I ever use to my DragonDictate vocabulary. I add some of them, and I add fragments that build others. I also use editor abbreviations (the :ab command for vi), English words, and English words followed by global substitution -- whatever is easiest for the task at hand. It works for me even though I work with a large piece of software and have to deal with other people's non-English-like variable names all the time. Jeff, you were working in LISP, right? I think that's probably at the extreme of Dragon difficulty; the more common programming languages e.g. C are much more dealable. Dana dana@sybase.com ------------------------------ End of SOREHAND Digest - 22 Apr 1995 to 23 Apr 1995 ***************************************************